Mike Rowehl

Here’s the transcript from the IRC channel during the Enough Dumb Agents Get Smart presentation at Future Salon:

[7:15pm] JeffClavier: http://sfbayacm.org/ is the URL for San Francisco Bay Area Chapter, ACM
[7:21pm] NiallKennedy joined the chat room.
[7:22pm] miker: Hey Niall
[7:22pm] NiallKennedy: hi Mike
[7:23pm] miker: Are you watching the video?
[7:23pm] NiallKennedy: yes. are you remote or local?
[7:23pm] miker: local
[7:23pm] miker: how is the video/audio?
[7:24pm] NiallKennedy: video is pretty good, audio is good considering it’s of the audience right now
[7:24pm] NiallKennedy: am I being projected?
[7:25pm] miker: Yup, video screens up with IRC on it, right behind Rafer actually
[7:25pm] miker: hi nialllll!
[7:25pm] miker: that was Elle stealing my keyboard
[7:25pm] JeffClavier: Yo Niall
[7:25pm] NiallKennedy: hi Jeff
[7:25pm] miker: steacl
[7:27pm] NiallKennedy: Cheesecake Factory
[7:28pm] NiallKennedy: and I was sitting next to Scott, across from Mark :)
[7:29pm] miker: del.
[7:29pm] miker: icio.us
[7:29pm] miker: oops
[7:29pm] miker: del.icio.us
[7:30pm] JeffClavier: http://del.icio.us
[7:31pm] markfinnern joined the chat room.
[7:31pm] waynesville joined the chat room.
[7:32pm] markfinnern: HI Wayne how is the sound and the video?
[7:32pm] waynesville: It’s good
[7:33pm] waynesville: I missed the beginning. (Dinner)
[7:38pm] NiallKennedy: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/068486875X/
[7:39pm] markfinnern: http://www.ahding.com/cheapgas/
[7:39pm] JeffClavier: http://softtechvc.buzznet.com is my moblog
[7:41pm] waynesville: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/scottrafer/ - has just 2 piccies
[7:42pm] NiallKennedy: http://www.technorati.com/tag/scottrafer/
[7:42pm] NiallKennedy: one del.icio.us entry
[7:43pm] johnca joined the chat room.
[7:45pm] NiallKennedy: http://podscope.com/
[7:46pm] waynesville: what did he say they’ll do on 911?
[7:47pm] NiallKennedy: E911. geolocation built-in to mobile phones
[7:48pm] NiallKennedy left the chat room.
[7:48pm] NiallKennedy joined the chat room.
[7:49pm] waynesville: I’m “waynerad” on skype
[7:49pm] johnca: hi wayne!
[7:50pm] markfinnern: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/futuresalon/
[7:50pm] waynesville: whois johnca
[7:50pm] waynesville: boh
[7:50pm] johnca: John Abbe
[7:50pm] waynesville: hmm. i forgot irc commands
[7:50pm] waynesville: oh! hi john!
[7:51pm] waynesville: this is pretty cool we can talk without interupting scott
[7:52pm] johnca: yeah, but everyone in the room can follow the conversation (it’s on screens here)
[7:52pm] miker: we’ll have to setup a hecklebot for next time
[7:53pm] waynesville: yeah but they’re not looking at the screen. They’re looking at Scott
[7:53pm] NiallKennedy: drinking game with each mention of tags or long tail
[7:54pm] waynesville: heehee
[7:55pm] waynesville: hey niall. tag my long tail
[7:56pm] waynesville: now we just need a firefox extension for automatic tagging while u browse
[7:56pm] miker: I’m thinking greasemonkey to add the form to anything would be a good idea
[7:56pm] NiallKennedy: already exists
[7:56pm] NiallKennedy: Yahoo! has it
[7:57pm] miker: but I just saw this for the first time today, so I haven’t tried it out at all
[7:57pm] NiallKennedy: yep
[7:57pm] NiallKennedy: goatse!
[7:58pm] waynesville: reaaaaally?
[7:58pm] waynesville: url?
[7:59pm] markfinnern: Marc Canter post: http://marc.blogs.it/archives/2005/03/opentopics.html
[7:59pm] waynesville: www.waynerad.com/porn
[7:59pm] waynesville: just kidding
[8:00pm] GabeRiv joined the chat room.
[8:01pm] NiallKennedy: Outline Processor Markup Language
[8:02pm] miker: Nonsense! :-)
[8:02pm] waynesville: hmm i can’t read that blog post and follow mr Scott
[8:02pm] waynesville: at the same time
[8:02pm] NiallKennedy: http://developers.technorati.com/wiki/RelTag
[8:02pm] NiallKennedy: (existing tag work)
[8:03pm] JeffClavier: Loomia still stealth :-)
[8:04pm] waynesville: whoops he just un-stealthed them
[8:05pm] NiallKennedy: http://www.loomia.com/
[8:06pm] waynesville: It looks like the website is just some copy
[8:07pm] JeffClavier: some copy of ?
[8:07pm] waynesville: i meant text.
[8:07pm] waynesville: e.g. salescopy
[8:07pm] waynesville: sorry overloaded word definition
[8:08pm] JeffClavier: I never lie, I only exagerate :-P exagerate :-P
[8:10pm] waynesville: Quote of the day. “It’s information inefficiency that turns out to drive things” — Scott Rafer
[8:11pm] waynesville: oh god daya talks about myspace every day…
[8:12pm] waynesville: serendipity
[8:12pm] waynesville: there’s a firefox extension called serendipity
[8:13pm] waynesville: i wonder what it’ll give me if i go to feedster
[8:13pm] johnca: ObLanka: “serendipity” comes from Serendib, an old Arab name for Sri Lanka
[8:13pm] waynesville: oh, sorry, it’s called StumbleUpon, not serendipity.
[8:13pm] waynesville: realy? i did not know that
[8:13pm] NiallKennedy: Pinpoint
[8:13pm] johnca: I haven’t been on this chat from the beginning, and someone asked that this chat get captured and posted to the mailing list. Will someone do that?
[8:14pm] miker: I’ve been on since the start, I’ll grab it and post
[8:14pm] waynesville: I wasn’t here from the beginning either
[8:14pm] waynesville: cool thanks miker
[8:21pm] johnca: http://peerflix.net/
[8:21pm] markfinnern: http://www.peerflix.com/
[8:22pm] waynesville: peerflix looks like mediachest
[8:23pm] waynesville: hmm no peerflix is different
[8:23pm] johnca: howso?
[8:23pm] waynesville: with mediachest you have to return DVDs. It’s like checking DVDs out of a library.
[8:24pm] waynesville: Only the “library” is someone else on the internet
[8:24pm] waynesville: whereas peerflix just moves a pool of DVDs around to whoever wants them
[8:25pm] waynesville: he’s talking about intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation
[8:26pm] waynesville: e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrinsic_motivation
[8:26pm] waynesville: people who can make money from a personal passion are very lucky
[8:27pm] johnca: Punished By Rewards, Alfie Kohn (excellent book re intrinsic motivation)
[8:27pm] NiallKennedy: when is the talk going to come back to smart agents?
[8:28pm] waynesville: The Chinese WILL figure out a way to control information flow.
[8:28pm] waynesville: Just watch.
[8:29pm] johnca: And then the Chinese will figure out how to circumvent that control. Neh?
[8:29pm] johnca: (and then control will be exerted again, etc.)
[8:30pm] johnca: or more seriously, what makes you think that battle will be “won” by those who wish to control?
[8:31pm] johnca: http://sciencecommons.org/
[8:31pm] JeffClavier_ joined the chat room.
[8:31pm] markfinnern: Science Commons: http://science.creativecommons.org/
[8:32pm] waynesville: I thought the Chinese would not be able to control information flow on the internet, but they’ve proven me wrong (so far).
[8:32pm] bobcat62 joined the chat room.
[8:32pm] waynesville: So now my expectation is they will continue to prove me wrong
[8:39pm] johnca left the chat room.
[8:40pm] johnca joined the chat room.
[8:45pm] JeffClavier_: Plug: if you are interested in the future of Vertical Search, join us for SDForum’s Vertical LEAP: http://www.sdforum.org/SDForum/Templates/CalendarEvent.aspx?CID=1680
[8:48pm] waynesville: opt-in? what?
[8:49pm] miker: copyright. talking about the default state being a copyright for new works
[8:49pm] waynesville: Oh, opt-in to copyright
[8:49pm] waynesville: I get it now
[8:49pm] waynesville: I didn’t understand the question when he first asked but I get it now
[8:50pm] NiallKennedy: oooh, politics now
[8:51pm] JeffClavier left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[8:54pm] waynesville: video.google.com
[8:58pm] waynesville: I never thought I’d hear Mike Korns say “currency is not useful”
[8:58pm] waynesville: Ahhh — “IF information can provide food and shelter”. That will never happen.
[9:00pm] johnca: people lived that way for millions of years, why not?
[9:00pm] waynesville: Because information != energy. Food is energy.

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